@ The Round Table: The… Amazing… Spider-Man?

First Words from Louis Santiago, a Major Spidey Fan:

It’s only been a handful of days since the trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man hit the web, right on the tails of the teaser for The Dark Knight Rises. And already, it seems like almost everyone agrees that it’s going to be the absolute most terrible thing that’s ever happened to the comics industry.

Well, almost everyone. And “seems”. Because I ain’t one of… “everyone”… That sounded terrible–Look, the point is, I’m keeping my hopes up.

My Reasons Why:

  • First off, understand that I don’t think the new suit looks fantastic. I already wrote a post about it on my own blog, so I won’t go into detail here about why exactly I don’t think it’s the worst thing in the world, but I have to address the fact that about 70% of the negative opinions people have about this movie are based pretty completely on the suit. It’s not, “Well, I don’t like the approach,” or “I don’t believe this Garfield fellow to be the most astute choice. Oh ho ho!” Instead it’s “ZOMFG! Look at that racing stripe!!! LAME!!!” I’ve also heard, “It looks like some kinda… sports jump suit.” And, really, that kind of blows my mind. Cause here’s the thing:

IT IS A SPORTS JUMPSUIT! It was in the Ultimate Spider-Man series (which this movie was initially based on). And seriously, if you take the real life approach that Nolan's Batman movies made so popular, where else would Peter get a suit that looks anything like the ol' red and blue? And is the problem really that it looks like an athletic suit or that it's different?

  • Anyway, you also need to know that I was not a huge fan of the first-person ride at the end of the trailer. Was it really, really gimmicky? Yes. Will it potentially be painful if used in the movie? Definitely.
    But has anyone up until now really ever tried to show me what it’s like to be Spider-Man? No. Never. And, honestly, that always used to bother me about the Sam Raimi movies. Sam would give us these grand finales where we follow Spidey swinging around to booming trumpets and it was great. Only, the camera never followed him around any insane loop-de-loops; we always just sat back and watched him as casual observers, even though the technology would’ve allowed us to actually swing with the Web Slinger.
    So in the end, do I have to at least appreciate that someone went through the trouble to show me what it’s really like to be Spider-Man, if only for a few seconds? Yes.
  • Finally, understand that I also think Andrew Garfield’s Peter Parker looks like an trendy douche bag. Unfortunately though, just by following modern trends, actual Peter Parker in actual Ultimate Spider-Man comics eventually started to look like a trendy douche bag. Did the fans rebel and demand the series’ then artist, David Lafuente, change Peter’s hairstyle so that we all didn’t just stop reading the book? You’re damn right we did. But, honestly guys, we’re completely incapable of affecting how Peter looks in this movie. Because, as always, this comic book movie is not just marketed to comic book fans (because, guys, if it was, it would tank, because there aren’t as many of us as you think); so if Peter wasn’t a trendy, hipster nerd, that one girl you know who had a Heath Ledger Joker t-shirt a few years ago, but who you eventually discovered really knew nothing about comic books, probably wouldn’t be interested in this movie. Neither would her friends or a lot of your friends and coworkers. And family.

So, just to be clear, I have a lot of the same problems with this movie that you do. I do think the suit’s a little weird. I do think some of the choices they made in the trailer (and maybe the movie [?]) are gimmicky. And I definitely (so definitely) do think Peter’s hoody in class and thumbs through the sleeves of his sweater are absolutely painful.

But, in the end, when I see the chances that they’ve taken with this re-imagining of Spider-Man (the suit, the shots, the weird, serious approach), do I think there’s a chance that this will maybe be something completely new and interesting and different? Do I think it may add major things to the mythos of the man? Yes, I do. And as a fan, that excites me.

I’m probably going to be completely wrong and incredibly disappointed, but for right now it’s fingers and toes crossed.

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Onto Chaos Mechanica, a Moderate Spider-Man Fan…

You know, last week I got super-psyched to hear that the Dark Knight Rises first official trailer got released. First, a buddy of mine sent me a link to a bootleg uploaded video, totally real but certainly taken from a crappy video camera snuck into the last Harry Potter movie. And despite not understanding 90% of what was said, and seeing unbalanced and darkly contrasted images, I was excited enough to lose my mind when I saw two seconds of Bane (the first a quick glance shoved into the trailer, the second showing Bane advancing on Batman for presumably a huge showdown).

And then a few days later, I saw the actual uploaded trailer, the video clear, crisp, and audible. And you know what? I was still sort of excited, but, you know, whatever, it’s cool.

And then another few days later I hear the Amazing Spider-Man trailer had been released. How did I find out? Having three different friends send me the link almost one after another because they were just that. Damn. Excited. Immediately I thought “It must be a 30 second trailer showing him farting upside down or something”.

Boy, was I wrong.

With just a little less than a year left to go, we were given not a traditional teaser (especially in an age where comic film directors like to play coy and release the smallest bit of details once every year) but a whole, story-revealing trailer.

WaitWhoaWhat?

This is unprecendented. Small, but still major. Between showing the costume early and releasing this trailer early, they’re preparing us for this movie in stages. Get us uptight costume rabblerousers to get our shouting out of our system, let details get leaked bit by bit on the stellar cast and the continuity-influenced plot, and then they release this spectacular trailer, and what can we do but say “Ok, this is not bad.”

I’ll be the first to raise my hand and say I was part of that mob that hated the costume. I had my torch and pitchfork and I was ready to start sticking and bitchin’. I mean, who wouldn’t be up in arms over those early, leaked pictures?

And to be honest, occasionally it still annoys me. Especially every time I glance up at that early picture. But let’s not forget what they’re doing here.

This studio has been tasked to create an all-new Spider-Man franchise just years after the last multi-billion dollar Spider-Man franchise. Raimi’s trilogy made well over a trillion dollars worldwide and that’s a huge fanbase that you have to convince through magazines, TV spots, and pictures that this is something new and different, especially after the disaster that was Spider-Man 3.

You also have to prove it’s a whole new story, not a rehashing of the first trilogy or an elaboration of a part of it in any way. So what can you do? You make a new costume, cast an all new cast, and go for a different vibe. It’s not what they want to do, it’s what they have to do to distance themselves from Raimi and Maguire’s Spider-Man and make it their own. Your dad passes his car to you, you give it a new paint job, replace that 8 track player with an iPod deck, and hang a flaming skull where the minty tree freshener has been hanging there for twenty years.

Also, about the trailer: It’s great. In today’s society, this so-called emo Peter would be dressed that way because teenagers do dress that way now. They don’t dress like classic Stan Lee and Steve Ditko Peter. Loner nerds hide their glasses and burn their stupid knit sweaters. He would be quiet and drawing/writing by himself in the corner because he has no one to talk to. That’s the definition of a loner nerd. Alone. And you know why it makes perfect sense? Because in the comics when Peter finally finds a way to cut loose, as Spider-Man, he actually acts out and develops a sense of humor. He becomes daring. He becomes a wisecracker. An introvert finally given a chance to beat up big, brutish, jock-like criminals? Sounds like a Sigmund Freud scenario.

Give this movie a chance. It’s trying for something big, something unique, but something true to the heart and spirit of the comics. Sure it’s been given a 2011 facelift, but at it’s core it may be the most true interpretation brought to live action ever accomplished.

The Weekly Poll Results (7.25 – 7.31)

Comments
5 Responses to “@ The Round Table: The… Amazing… Spider-Man?”
  1. Great post, guys! I am interested in the growing pains of this Peter Parker. His education on the fly of his surroundings, tactics, and the consequences of his actions. Most kids don’t think like that. They are very in the moment and take things as they come. I think what people fail to mention with Peter’s new powers is his bigger opposition. His original pre-Spider-man rogues gallery was bullies. I would like to believe his wise cracking is a weapon along with his Spider abilities.

    I don’t think being a douche initially is a bad thing because a teenager like him would be socially inept. He thinks a lot and says very little. This is a kid who learned to play by himself and live within.

  2. Greg Figueroa says:

    Also, changing the suit is not only to differentiate between movies, but for merchandise reasons. Add this version of Spider-man to your collection.

    • Thanks for your comments, Greg! I like your opinions on this approach to Peter; you and Masoud have both made his trendiness a bit more acceptable.

      And, honestly, I have to admit that I already want a statue of this Spider-Man. Why? I don’t know! I have issues with the costume! But maybe it’s just because I feel like this is the first, actual movie costume?

      “What the hell are you even talking about, Louis?” you may ask. Simply this: It’s always been tradition for super hero’s and villain’s costumes to be seriously revamped when they make it to the silver screen. Batman gained the full black suit and black and yellow shield that became incredibly iconic. The X-Men gained all black leather that became the basis for many future costumes. The Green Goblin got some kind of… tech… goblin… armor or something. And the Kingpin became an awesome Black man!

      But Spider-Man (and Superman) just… never changed. Tobey’s duds were just the ol’ red and blue with absolutely zero imagination and style thrown in. Well, not zero, but they basically just gave us an exact translation of the famous comics get up.

      But now, there’s an actual Spider-Man “movie costume” I can refer to / dissect / maybe get a statue of. And, really, who am I to complain about the opportunity?

  3. Oh man, I’m forever an optimist regarding these films, and I’m really psyched about what Andrew Garfield can do with the role. I have faith in Marc Webb, Emma Stone is gorgeous and talented and the entire cast is really tight. This is a reboot, it’s new, it’s different, and I don’t think I have any reservations yet.

    One of the initial major criticisms of Batman Begins was the fact that it took half the film to get Bruce in costume, that it meandered, but with time it’s become this brilliant template to how superhero films should be done. This is going to be great, I believe that.

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